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and there were profane words used to the way they comport themselves and as a result these guys were free of any tether to the leadership and so not only were they voting or prepared to vote against boehner this last time around. he pulled the bill so we'll never know. they were flouting him very publicly, in particular you saw tim hills' camp saying we won't be intimidated by the speaker and the republican leadership and there were some tweets, as well. the lesson wasn't learned. if anything, they're moving in the opposite direction. >> are they known for being as what jonathan was saying here, jerks and we are paraphrasing here at the moment based on what was actually said by representative moreland. what are they known for? >> they are known for being true mostly to the tea party, and they are not responsive to the priorities of their own party leadership. they're responsive to their own constituencies and what they're worried about is being challenged by someone who is more conservative than they are and when they would hold this vote as a score on whether to support them or oppose them in t
ederter for politics and news at yahoo! news. she has become a weekend pal. thanks for being back with us, both of you. let's start with the debt limit, we're talking about the debt limit, again. do republicans believe this is their ace in the hole? >> i sure hope they don't. i think the president has the stronger hand on this. number one, he won the election. we're all discussing that. he has the stronger hand in general. the other thing is that everybody remembers what we went through two summers ago. the summer of 2011 when the nation went through default. people felt that the president handled the situation badly, but they felt the republican congress was much worse in that particular negotiation. i don't think the republicans in trying to reestablish their brand want to get back into that fight and look like they want to have the ability to hold up the debt ceiling and then potentially bring the nation back to the edge of default, again. >> i want to play a snippet here of what majority leader harry reid said this week said about the fiscal. >> we would be somewhat foolish to work ou
packages. gun control probably will be on the table and the gun lobby will get used to it. i was surprised that the nra didn't give up some small concession. it seemed they might so they could be a player in the debate. of course, they doubled down as you said. i think we will see a lot more discussion next year. it is not going to fade because the president has made it a priority going into january. >> it is interesting because republicans and conservatives have been taking a step away from their stance on guns. back in 1995 three weeks after the oklahoma city bombing former president george h bush resigned as agents were called jackbooted thugs. do you think that other lawmakers will take bold steps away from the nra or stay put? >> in a word, no. as a matter of fact i think those who have made steps away from the nra will probably make bold steps back to the nra because they know it is the politicly expedient thing to do. we have a continuation of the massacres that occur periodically in this country and nobody seems to be willing to do anything. even if they come up with another assaul
violence and an organizer with 1 million moms for gun control. >> they can keep pushing us and bumping us and moving us back. >> it's the holidays, you want to get home, but at the same time, what are you going to do? >> on this holiday weekend, thousands of flights delayed and we're watching that as the winter stom wallops the midwest and good day to you. i'm richard lui. the stalled fiscal cliff debate and the january deadline now just ten days away. president obama and his family are vacationing in hawaii and congress is on holiday recess after no new breakthrough and both sides are holding out and they'll be able to reach a deal. >> call me a hopeless optimist, but i actually still think we can get it done. >> of course, hope springs eternal and i know we have it in us to come together and to do the right thing. >> nbc's kristin welker is in hawaii and the president is still in talks while he's there or are the the talks on hiatus? >> richard, my sources tell me this is very much a working vacation for president obama and at this time there's no conversation between the president and
next? with us nbc news capitol hill correspondent mike vic rah and nbc news white house correspondent kristen welker. mike, let's get started with you. what's happening right now in the senate. i understand there's an update on the chained cpi. >> reporter: they say the darkest hour right before the dawn, melissa. everybody ought to hope that's true, at least if you don't want to see your taxes go up on midnight on monday and tuesday night because everything seems to be at a standstill right now. let's review the bidding. here it is from a republican source here on the republican side of capitol hill. all day yesterday they were trading proposals back and forth. by his count two democratic offers came back to republicans and four came back from republicans to democrats. the last one being at 7:00 last night, and, boom, after that, things pretty much came to a standsti standstill. no offers. republicans say they have not heard from democrats since then. mitch mcconnell, of course, the republican leader here in the senate, has said he has reached out to joe biden, the vice president, an
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